FM17 Experiment – Every team deducted points they were away from the bottom

After my What if every Premier League team had a point deduction experiment, I am back to do another experiment, and this time, it is a suggestion by Therefore, I have docked each team the number of points they were away from the bottom club in the 2015-16 season, for example, Leicester were 64 points away from the bottom place, so they have been deducted 64 points. Newly promoted sides start on 0 points… let’s go!

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Each team have been deducted the number points they finished off 20th, therefore Leicester have been deducted 64, Arsenal have been deducted 54, whilst Sunderland have only been deducted 22 points, whilst promoted sides Burnley, Hull and Middlesborough start on 0 points.

What impact will this have on the final standings? Could we see one of the top dogs relegated and can a promoted side win the Premier League? Not to forget what further effects it could have on the team down the line. If they get relegated, will they lose all the good players for half their value? Will they become a Portsmouth?

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The season is wrapped up and finished, what effect has the point deductions had? Itg has had quite big effects. Chelsea did manage to win the league still, with just 41 points in total, a number that is normally the staying up total, whilst the three new promoted teams, Hull, Burnley and Middlesborough all got a Champions League place next season. In fact, Hull were top for most of the season before Chelsea pipped them to the title on the final day! Arsenal and Manchester United finish 5th and 6th with less than 30 points. Tottenham finished outside of Europe places with just 24 points. Watford, West Ham and West Brom finish 8th, 9th and 10th on less than 25 points each. Liverpool finish in 11th place with 20 points. Bournemouth finish 12th. Manchester City finish a disappointing final position of 13th with just 17 points. Swansea, Stoke and Crystal Palace finish in 14th, 15th and 16th. Meanwhile, Everton stayed up  through the skin of their teeth with 7 points. Sunderland were the only team who went down to be on positive points, as Leicester finish on -5 and Southampton finish on -6.

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There was a lot more change in positions than there normally is!

1st September 2017

What effect has it had on the relegated clubs so far? Did they lose any star players. We simmed up to the first day of September to find out.



Sunderland spend just over £5 million this summer with de Guzman (Napoli), Burgui (Real Madrid) and Sandro joining on a free, whilt Chuba Akpom (Arsenal), Nathaniel Chalobah (Chelsea) and Ianis Hagi (Fiorentina) all joined on loan. Carlos Carmona join form Atalanta for £1.7m, along with team-mate Andrea Conti for £2.4m. Jack Wilshere lookalike, Jack Whatmough joins for just 300k, and their last transfer was the signing of Norbert Gyomber from Roma for £1million


A number of player get released on frees including John O’Shea. Jan Kirchhoff moves to BMG for £5.25m, whilst Papy Djilobodji departs to Nice for £5.25m, and Jack Rodwell heads on loan to Cagliari.

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Leicester City


Leicester spent £15.25m, bringing in Duvan Zapata on a free from Napoli, then went back to Napoli for Lorenzo Tonelli for a fee of £4.9m. Rafael Toloi from Atalanta for £6m. Loan signings include Andre Wisdom (Liverpool) and Wilfried Bony and Fabian Delph (Manchester City) and Andrea Poli (AC Milan). Ryan Adams signed from Luton for 155k


Leicester bring in £16.5m, as Danny Simpson moved to Middlesbrough for just £4.2m, Robert Huth moved to Valencia for just £1.1m, and club skipper Wes Morgan follows Danny Simpson and signs for Middlesbrough for £2.1million. Other departures include Luis Hernandez, Namplays Mendy, Danilo D’Ambrosio and Leonardo Ulloa

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Southampton spend the most out of all the relegated sides, as they spend £41 million, as they bring in Kamara from Tours for £1.2m, Alex Gersbach from Rosenborg for £1.5m, George Throne from Derby for £9m, Alberto Paloschi from Atalanta for £9m, Jack Colback from Newcastle for £2m, Tom Lees from Sheffield Wednesday for £8.5m, Joel Campbell from Arsenal for £4.6m, Neil Wilson (regen) from Hearts for £235k and Stephen Caulker from QPR for £5m


Southampton may have spent more than any other club, but there’s a good reason for this, as they lost £65million worth of players. Jordy Clasie left for AC Milan for 12million, Jay Rodriguez moved to Stoke for £10.25m, whilst Charlie Austin moved to the capital to sign for Crystal Palace for £9.75m, whilst Matthew Targett also moved to the capital to sign for Watford for £8m. Oriol Romeu moved to Middlesbrough for £9.75m. Shane Long (Brighton), Cedric (Bournemouth), Stephen Davis (LOSC), Jose Fonte (Espanyol) and Maya Yoshida (Wolves) also left the club.

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